Netherlands Army (military) 1930's - WWII

Netherlands Army.
Since the colours on the chart may be a little off, here’s a brief list of facings.
As far as I know the list below is correct.


The Army adopted the green-grey uniform in 1912, the lighter field-grey  about two years later. Cavalry, Horse Artillery and officers of the General Staff retained hussar type uniforms.
Generals wore an all black uniform.
Coloured piping and cuffs for arm of service were;

Scarlet Red Generals
Crimson General Staff
Poppy Red Grenadiers, Artillery, & Red Pontoneers
Green Jagers
Blue Infantry, Cyclists & Engineers

Coloured Patches at the front of the collar were:

Red Garrison Headquarters.
Orange Reserve Officers Schools of Infantry, Artillery & Engineers.
White Reserve Officers School of Cavalry.
Crimson Special Service Officers of the General Staff and Ordnance.
Blue All other Special Service Officers.

Generals had two crimson strips of  2mm wide piping on the breeches.
Cavalry and Horse Artillery had no piping, but piping was on the OR’s headdress.
General Staff officers had piping around collar and on the breeches only.
Ordnance Officers had crimson piping on the cuffs, collar and breeches.

Sergeant Major’s Crown above chevrons.
Instructor of Infantry – Gold chevrons Silver Crown.
Instructor of Cavalry - Silver chevrons Silver Crown.
Administrator of Infantry – Gold chevrons Gold Crown.
Administrator of Cavalry – Silver chevrons Gold Crown.
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Excellent thanks

EXCELLENT job Wfrad, I have been looking for the WW2 era Royal Netherlands Army rank insignia for quite some time now

You wouldent happen to have a chart for both WW1 and WW2 French Army would you?

Chris
Short answer is Yes,
It would take some time to make rank charts though.
I also have a small booklet on French, Belgian & German uniforms/insignia WWI period printed around 1902/10 [no date just printers to His Majesty & Queen Alexandra]
Here's a couple of charts that I did for another site, is this what you're after?
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wfrad wrote:Chris
Short answer is Yes,
It would take some time to make rank charts though.
I also have a small booklet on French, Belgian & German uniforms/insignia WWI period printed around 1902/10 [no date just printers to His Majesty & Queen Alexandra]
Here's a couple of charts that I did for another site, is this what you're after?
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WF

Small world WF, I believe I was the one who requested a Milice rank insignia chart on the rank/uniform insignia forum

And take you time ... its summer vacation and the living's easy!

Chris
If you don't have the details of the Milice I can post them again for you.
As for time, you haven't seen how long it takes my single brain cell to function.
If you have the space, and the patience, I could scan and send any info via email.
When it comes to drawing my 2yr old granddaughter shows more ability, and speed.

Do you have:- CHANTIERS DE LA JEUNESE ranks, COMMISSARIATS REGIONEAUX or POLICE NATIONALE ?
As for Dutch insignia WWII, I have found auction sites [not just ebay] can sometime come up with examples of cap badges [if you don't mind them stamped with the sites name]. But very little rank insignia.

One of the best short ref books that I have for Dutch [The French sections not to bad also] is 'Army Badges and Insignia of World War 2, Book 2 by Guido Rosignoli.
I saw a copy on ebay, if you don't have it, it may come up again .

Regards
WF

I have the Milice rank insignia, well I have the insignia and ranks you provided but I dont have English translations

CHANTIERS DE LA JEUNESE ranks, COMMISSARIATS REGIONEAUX or POLICE NATIONALE ?

I have none of those; I have the current day Police Nationale but I assume you are referring to pre 1966 when it was called the Surete Nationale?

Police Nationale was the new name given to the Sûreté for the French Unoccupied Zone during WWII.
The unoccupied zone was divided into regions that were the former departments of the Sûreté.
Each region came under a Regional Prefect of Police with his Intendants de Police assisting him, or possibly two intendants depending on the size of the region.
The departments within the region was headed by a Department Prefect.
All towns with over 10,000 had a branch of the National Police.
Sections within were:
Police de Sécurité Publique
Police de Sûreté
Police des Renseignements Généraux
Groupes Mobiles de Reserve
Régiments de la Gaarde
Garde des Communications
Garde du Maréchal

Ranks, OR’s Junior to senior:
Sous-Brigadier, ---broken stripe on cuff of yellow red yellow.
Brigadier 2nd Class, ---full cuff stripe yellow narrow red yellow {army Adjutant chief}
Brigadier 1st Class, ---as 2nd Class with additional shot bar above full bar.
Brigadier Chef 2nd Class, ---full cuff stripe silver narrow red silver.
Brigadier Chef 1st Class, ---as 2nd Class with additional short bar above full bar.

Officers. Ranks on a light blue passant with silver edges.
Officer de Paix [Peace Officer] 2nd Class, One metal acanthus leaf.
Officer de Paix 1st Class,------Two metal acanthus leaves.
Officer de Paix Principal, ------Three metal acanthus leaves.
Commandant 4th Class,-------Crossed oak leaves in silver wire.
Commandant 3rd Class,-------Crossed oak leaves with silver star.
Commandant 2nd Class,-------Crossed oak leaves with two silver stars.
Commandant 1st Class,-------Crossed oak leaves with three silver stars.
Commandant Principal 2nd Class,-------Crossed oak leaves with four silver stars.
Commandant Principal 1st Class,-------Crossed oak leaves four stars, with bar between stars 3 & 4.

Finally, here’s what I took to be the translation of some Milice ranks.
chief de main adjoint -------Deputy Chief of hand
chef de main--------Head of hand
chef de dizaine adjoint-------Chief Deputy dozen
chef de dizaine-------Chief dozen
chef de groupe [centaine]-------Group leader [hundred]
chef de groupe [cohorte]-------Group leader [cohort]
chef de trentaine adjoint-------Deputy head of thirty
Chef de centre-------Head of centre
Sorry for the long winded reply. hope its of use!!
WF