Unknown Bristish Naval Cocked Hat

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Unknown Bristish Naval Cocked Hat

Post  donkav on Thu 21 Jan 2010, 11:08 pm

Hi all

I am also trying to identify and get more imformation on this Cocked Hat (headress) with plumped feather together with its original case.
The engraving on the case though is hard to read, I think reads:
" F H I Murphy MD
A.M.D
Which leads me to believe its is a British Naval doctor / surgeon's hat.
Inside is listed the maker:
R. Bennet
Castle St, Leicester Sq, London.

Any ideas, most welcome, as some members have been so helpful with other items.

Regards
Don

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Not Navy

Post  wfrad on Fri 22 Jan 2010, 9:02 am

Try army medical staff.
Medical staff wore staff lace with black plumes, the lace shown I believe to be Victorian, worn by Royal Engineers and Regimental Officers according to the 1900 dress regulations.
I dont believe it to be Royal Navy, then again I'm not an expert.
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WF

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Re: Unknown Bristish Naval Cocked Hat

Post  ChrisF202 on Fri 22 Jan 2010, 10:03 am

Agreed, I am thinking that AMD means Army Medical Department as the British Army's Royal Army Medical Corps was known between 1873 and 1898 when it was given it's present name.

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Re: Unknown Bristish Naval Cocked Hat

Post  buistR on Fri 22 Jan 2010, 8:33 pm

Agree with WF and ChrisF. In 1900 The Surgeon-General Army Medical Staff and full colonels of the Royal Army Medical Corps wore cocked hats with black swan feathers -Lieutenant Colonels and below made do with the blue home service helmet. Which means that the headdress photographed would be quite rare and presumably valuable. By 1934 general officers and colonels of the RAMC had changed their feathers to a mix of white and dull cherry on the (by then infrequent) occasions that senior medical officers got to wear full dress and cocked hats.

By contrast the Royal Navy never seem to have had feathers on their cocked hats - perhaps salt spray was bad for them Smile.

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Re: Unknown Bristish Naval Cocked Hat

Post  donkav on Tue 16 Feb 2010, 2:45 pm

BuistG, Chris + Wf,

Many thanks for the comments they were most helpful.

To update what I have found out based on this information, is that the Hat belonged to a Francis Henry Swinton Murphy Surgoen Major, of Fife Scotland 1854, commissioned 1877, stationed in Madras 1880 and died Cork, Ireland 1892.

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Don

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